Отправлено: 14.11.08 09:33. Заголовок: Осторожно - перекупщики!

Ochen nuzhno opoznat zavodchika etih sobak, a tak zhe ih vladelca. Na litovskom sayTe perekupshchika prodayutsia eti shchenki, 90% veroyatnost chto zavodchik ob etom ne znayet ili mozhet bit, chto fotki kradenniye, a shchenki - drugiye...ne veriu, chto tyakiye kakvidno iz fotok horoshiye detki prodavalis bi cherez obmanshchika-resselera. Pomogite pozhaluisto!:

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Shchenki prodayutsia kak vengerskiye

 Отправлено: 14.11.08 23:18. Заголовок: мотек пишет: Так эт..

мотек пишет:

цитата:

Так это щенки этого Золтана?

Да, это его щенки.

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 00:32. Заголовок: vot boleye konkretno..

vot boleye konkretnoye info ot menia:
on sam vo vsei krase:
fas
anfas
Zhenu zovut Sandra Zagurskyte, ili Sandra Benderbej
A eto - vse tureckiye linki, kotorih udalos otkopat na tureckih saitah, pro "remeslo" yego zhonushki-ona obeshchala rabotu, brala dengi i smativala udochki:
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adres prozhivaniya gaspodina :
Thomas (Tomas) Zagurskys
gyv. Taikos 82a-10, Kaunas, Lithuania, 35000
chem zanimayetsia mezhdu torgovlei defkami, mashinami, mehami, telefonami i pr.:
click here
yest osnovaniya polagat, chto na etoi foto - zhena sandra Zagurskyte:
click here
On pereprodayot vseh porod - po spisku, ot A doZ , ispolzuyet fotki na svoyom saite bez razresheniya i vedoma vladelcev, a tak zhe prodayot shchenkov bez vedoma vladelcev...

Zavtra prodolzhu

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 00:35. Заголовок: vot yeshcho: viagra..

vot yeshcho:
viagra
avtomobil

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 00:36. Заголовок: kompiuter Sony, neno..

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 00:45. Заголовок: akvarium, nenoviyakv..

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 00:48. Заголовок: takih perekupov poya..

Takih perekupov poyvavilos i bolshe - vidno primer pokazan...dengi hlinuli...
Vot yeshcho odin, sovsem svezhiy, tozhe tashchit shchenkov iz Vengrii:
polniy spisok porod

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 00:50. Заголовок: Opiat Thomas Zagursk..

Opiat Thomas Zagurskys:
telefon Nokia

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 01:09. Заголовок: vsia tema v chest TH..

Vsia tema "v chest" Thomasa na odnom krupnom zagranichnom mezhdunarodnom forume:
click here

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 03:06. Заголовок: chanson Этот Томас,п..

chanson Этот Томас,похоже ,всех достал....

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 09:09. Заголовок: Юрата, а у них что, ..

Юрата, а у них что, магазин за стеклом ?
Если щенки плохо содержатся. то у вас наверное есть что либо типа зеленых?

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 11:55. Заголовок: Admin nashi eti zeli..

Admin
nashi eti zelioniye - petrushki i vsio
Mi sami sozdali iniciativnuyu gruppu i boremsia s etimi perekupami. Eto - tiazhelaya borba, yuridicheski mi ne mozhen nichego - oni pokupayut patenti po prodazhe i-flag v ruki!
A narod-sama znayesh, vezde odinakoviy, doverchiviy. Da i zavodchiki razniye - popsmotri tolko na europet.com Ti dumayesh, kazhdomu , kto imeyet shchenkov, i sidit s nimi dolgo i beznadezhno, ne vsio ravno, v kakiye ruki oni popadayut? Zvoniat vot takiye Tomasi i zabirayut u takih zavodchikov po 3-4 i boleye (zavisit ot porodi) - raduyutsia ved liudi
Etot Thomas , on voobshe naglec: on prodayot shchenkov po svoyei cene, a bivayet, zavodchik dazhe i ne podrazumevayet, chto eto YEGO shchenki prodayutsia u nas v Litve po internetu. On beriot avans s liudei, beriot obichno 50% ot summi, i tolko potom zvonit zavodchiku i zakazivayet shchenka. Poka liudi zhdut-on kormit ih skazkami kak ditio rastiot, posilayet fotki....za eto vremia prokruchivayet biznes liubim tovarom za eti 50% liudei za shchenka. Yesli poluchitsia-shchenka priveziot, yesli net - skazhet, chto shchenok bil plohoi ili zabolel, ili chto-to yeshcho, i verniot uzhe prokruchenniy avans. vsiotiho i spokoino.
U nas v LKD nedavno bil skandal, i oche krupniy - on na internete vezde podpisivalsia kak agent, upolnomochenniy, odnogo nashego pitomnika s buldogami. Pitomnik KIBUCIAI. prodaval ih shchenkob v Ameriku, Angliyu , gruzil konteinerami. Zavodchiki, kogda eto delo poshlo na verh, otkrestilis ot Thomasa-tipa on obmanshchik i t.p. , tipa nikto yemu nikakiye upolnomociya ot imeni pitomnika ne daval...
Na vengerskih saitah Thomas sebia predstavliayet kak zavodchika buldogov so stazhem 15 let.... u nas on pishet, chto nikogda zavodchikom ne bil. na foto - on s borodatim kolli i s buldogom. Vozmozhno etih 2 on i soderzhit kak svoih.

Posle perepalki nashei s nim na litovskih forumah on razoslal vsem adminam i administracii krupneishih litovskih forumah ugrozhayushchiye pisma s trebovaniyem zakrit temi o perekupshchike Thomase ili8 on podayot na sud za publichniye oskorbleniya i za vsio, chto o niom pishet narod, potreboval kompensacii za eto v razmere 5000EUR (nu, vidno, chtob malo ne pokazalos ), ili obeshchal poobshchatsia s nami cherez advokat. Razoslal tak zhe takiye zhe ugrozhayushchiye pisma v lichki uchastnikam foruma.
Admini forumi srazu zhe i pochistili - [aren torzhestvuyet. Poetomi mi seichas on chvstvuyet sebia podeditelem. Ostalsia tolko nash, kluba teryerov forum (menia tak legko ne ubyesh ) i forum buldogov.
Mi seichas sobirayem fakti. Vsio, chto ya tut viloczila, vse linki, mne kazhetsia, yavliayutsia dostatochno virazitelnimi faktami, chto otkrit glaza i uvidet WHO IS WHO
Glavnaya strana, otkuda on veziot shchenkov Vengriya, vot s vengerskamimi zavodchikami i nado nam poobshchatsia, hotia i tam zavodchiki-razniye.
Poyavilsia posle zakritiya forumov na etu temu noviy postavshchik vengerskih shchenkov. Vozmozhno, on rabotayet s Thomasom ruka v ruku. A tak zhe mozhet bit, chto eto tot samiy Thomas, tolko zaregistrirovan kak drugoi piolzovatel (naprimer, ot imeni zheni Sandri Zagurskyte)

Tak zhe mi stali poluchat SMS iz Finliandii s prosbami prodat suk konkretnih porod. Vot tekst s moyego telefona:
"Hello, I want to buye female scotch terrier puppy. Price? Do you bring puppy to Finland?"
Nomer telefona:+358466671594
Takiye SMS poluchili v tot zhe vecher 2 moi znakomiyes yorkami., odna-s buldogami...

SMS tak zhe prihodiat iz Italii - tam perekup sebia predstavliayet vet. vrachem.

Vot nedavniaya istoriyas parsonami, kotorimi na nashih i zagranichnih saitah torgoval Thomas:
Yego obyavlenie - "Puppies for sale
We offer Quality Puppies from Top Lines at affordable prices from responsible and reputable breeders! Rare breeds are also available.". I pismo zavodchici, kogda mi yei o Thomase rasskazali (na yego saite bili fotki yeyo shchenkov):
"My name is Judy Kozák from Hungary.I got an email Katerina Joskova.
My male is Deafy Dean z Jerena. I saw the webpage and I'm very angry,because I don't understand it.This puppies were born in my kennel and I don't advertise them on this page.
Please help me what can I do.

Thank you for your helping.

With warm greetings,Judy...>

<...Kateřina Josková wrote:
> Hello,
> a breeder from Hungary has got Deafy Dean and female called Skipy and I know that they had puppies but she would never sold her litter to a person like that.
> It is very strange!
> I will write to Judy and let you know.
> With warm regards,
> Katerina Joskova""

Vot kem Thomas sebia predstavliayet na zagranichnih saitah:

click here
Obratite vnimaniye, chto on pishet: We are breeds excellent puppies 15 years old and We have a lot reference to USA na litovskih saitah on sebia nazivayet konsultantom, upolnomochennim agentom zavodchikov, ekspertom po porodam, - tipa pomogayet liudiam soientirovatsia v sobakah, konsultiruyet o porodah, kak vospitivat, rasti, chem kormit i t.p.

Na yego saite yest foto schastlivih obladatelei shchenkov - mi proveriali. Ne udalos naiti konkretno ni odnogo zhivogo. Mistika. nashlas odna zhenshchina, kotoraya obnaruzhila sebia v spiskah obladatelei shchenkov i ochen idivilas. Sprosila - Thomas, mozhet podskazhite , gde on, etot moi noviy sobakin porodi shitcu???
Thomas, kogda liudi yemu zvoniat i interesuyutsia shchenkami, zapisivayet imena i familii , potom uzhe etih liudei skorei vsego i predstavlayet kak obladatelei shchenkov.

Vot pismo latviyskim zavodchikam:
Hello,
I'm looking for Italian greyhound and Sicilian greyhound puppies ??
Please let me know
Thanks

Thomas
Kaunas-Lithuania
+37060099454
Skype:thomasfamilypuppies
ICQ :432282174
http://www.thomasfamilypuppies.lt
"

Posledniye dni Thomas nemnozhko so svoimi obyavleniyami pritih - mozhet nalogovaya policiya zainteresovalas ili kto?...-ischezli mnogiye obyavleniya na litovskih saitah prodazhi raznogo melkogo tovara, nekotorih shchenkov. Tolko on zabil, ili ne znayet - mi sohranili kopii Google na HTML , tak zhe sdelalni PrintScreen'i obyavleniy i fotok, kradennih s drugih saitov, sohraneni vse razgovori s nim po SKYP'u

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 12:03. Заголовок: A vot etot otvet iz ..

A vot etot otvet iz Vengrii uzhe navodit na misli, chto vengerskim zavodchikam ne tak i vazhno horoshiye ruki - glavnoye-prodat!
Thank you for your help,yes he deleted advertisements,but I wrote it for Hungarian forums,but it's very interesting only 2 or 3 people were angry for it everybody didn't care for it.
Hungarian jack russell breeding is so difficult,because people search the cheap dog without pedigree. I'm only the one jack breeder in Hungary who do healthy tests and try to do it fairly the other "breeders" don't care for this and they don't care for who will buy the puppy so I was very angry thet my puppies were on this website.I thought I write some Hungarian breeders thet theirs puppies were on this site,but I think they won't say nothing for it,but perhaps I will ask them.
I asked my friend who is a layer...and we couldn't do anything if somebody use my pics...my logo ,the full one is all right reserved...but he use just half of it so I couldn't do everything again.He is not stupid, he
use pics
[2008.11.10 21:36:31] wolfin says: without sign and just half logo etc

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 12:06. Заголовок: Reakciya s drugoho f..

Reakciya s drugoho foruma na ispolzovaniye zhuzhogo materiala:
I have never give permission anybody to use pics from my webside!!!! Daiva wrote me last Saturday and informed me that somebody in Litvania use some of my pics...I have never knew anything about it before!
A few days later we found some pics from Rodica's page......but she hadn't knew anything about it before my email!
Moreover do you think I let somebody to use some part of my kennel logo????!!!!!! My all logo was created by my friend and it is all right reserved!!!!! Or let somebody to use some part of the pics without signature (Quenno portrai from Helena)????!!!!!
Believe me, I'm too proud of my kennel, of my dogs , so I surly put advertisement just under my name!
Anyway, I sale pups just diretly to the new owners!!!!!

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 12:16. Заголовок: Вообще-то это ужасно..

Вообще-то это ужасно!!!
Как можно защитить СВОЮ рекламу? Как можно правильно продать щенков???
Покупая за 800-1000 евро, он просто их перепродает по 3000...
Хочется верить, что хоть к "детям" относится нормально, а не как к коммерческому материалу..
Возмущению нет предела!!!

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 12:17. Заголовок: Liudi, zavodchiki iz..

Liudi, zavodchiki iz Vengrii, pishut pro Kennel, sobaku kotorogo imeyet Thomas (borodatogo kolli), pishet o vladelce sobaki ih razvedeniya:
yes, I know this kennel...she is a dogproducer...and she helps Thomas...she called me last week because of pups......
so somebody wrote to the forum that he has got dog from this kennel, through Thomas......?

anyway: Thomas is a businessman...but he must find owners for the pups he brough otherwise he won't have money...so I want to believe that he bring pup from Hungary just that case when he has got costumers.........
Thomas told me they ask export pedigree the name of the owners so maybe the breeder knows it...but as she is a dogproducer I think she doesn't care it!!!!

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 12:23. Заголовок: импиш имп vozmuzheni..

импиш имп
vozmushcheniue-yavleniye normalnoye u normalnogo zavodchika . NO!
Ya pechatayu eot material ne dlia togo, chto u menia kucha svobodnogo vremeni ili chto mne ne spitsia, - Thomas poyavilsia i na vashih forumah i na vashih saitah - u menia skromniye vozmozhnosti deistvovat odnoi. Mne kazhetsia vmeste-mi ne takaya uzh malenkaya sila. Mozhno i nado priostanovit etogo i pohozhih perekupov! proshu prosvetit narod, ispolzuya sobranniye fakti kak mozhno shire. Hotia naverno eto budet kaplia v more, no borotsia nado.

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 15:15. Заголовок: chanson Конечно надо..

chanson Конечно надо бороться с такими "томасами"!
Только и у нас и у вас много людей,которым совершенно безразлично кто и куда заберёт их щенков,главное побыстрее.
Я пока ещё не встречала никакой информации о таких перекупщиках,но буду следить.

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 15:17. Заголовок: Nazvaniye temy pomen..

Nazvaniye temy pomeniala

 Отправлено: 15.11.08 16:28. Заголовок: Я разошлю ссылку наш..

Я разошлю ссылку нашим, местным заводчикам и своим "детям" живущим в других городах и за рубежом.
Спасибо вам ...мы тоже постараемся быть на чеку...

 Отправлено: 14.06.09 00:08. Заголовок: А в чом криминал? Н..

А в чом криминал? Ну денек зарабатывает,ичо?=)